To Fiverr Or Not To Fiverr ?

Yes, as you might have noticed, this is a thread about the Fiverr marketplace.

As most of you already know, microjobs are a big part of the online service offering. Microjob marketplaces are basically websites where you can outsource small projects to professionals for small fees, sometimes even pennies. Fiverr is one of the marketplaces that stood out of the crowd when they set a single price for all jobs, $5. It was a great deal both for normal people and professionals alike, because normal people could finally afford professional touches on their projects, while experienced users found a place where their time wasn’t paid in cents, like on most microjob websites.

From the $5 you were paid, $1 was Fiverr’s fee. This meant that users were paying $5 per gig, while workers received only $4. You might think that this isn’t all that much, but some people ended up making thousands of dollars monthly. And that was because most gigs were tasks that didn’t take the experts more than 5 minutes to finish or jobs that were finished using automated tools. This worked great for everybody, especially within the SEO niche, when ranking websites was something pretty new. You would pay someone $5, they’d blast your website to first place in Google with some xRumer links and everyone was happy.

As SEO started evolving and ranking websites wasn’t as simple as spamming your link profile with poor quality forum profiles, people started to realize that you can no longer simply buy your place on the first page of Google with $5. Somewhere along the way, professionals all around the internet started talking about how, although Fiverr is very cheap to use, you only get what you pay for, so you shouldn’t expect booming results.

Currently Fiverr has changed a little its service cost policy. The main job you post will have to cost $5, but you can add extras that can increase your earnings quite a bit. This means that you can post your thread about building a logo for $5, but you can add an extra for a banner or a video for the same business that can cost $50 or even more. Some workers are even placing a gig with an initial price of $5, but ask you to buy extras worth $50, to reach what they consider a right price, before even starting the job. This kind of ruins the whole idea behind Fiverr as a market, and personally I do not enjoy seeing workers force their way into higher commissions. Although people are charging a lot more for their services on Fiverr, some over $50 per service, the marketplace just can’t move away from its tag of cheap but poor quality workers.

Recently I have tried to sell one of my services on Fiverr. It wasn’t in the SEO niche. I don`t like the niche, it’s oversaturated and it’s not really something I consider myself an expert in. My experience was pretty dissapointing, to be honest. First off, the description you write has to be short, just under 1,200 characters long. That means that you have to explain everything you’ll do within just a few paragraphs. Then you must make it unique enough so people get interested, but common enough so people search for your gig.

But that wasn’t even the part that dissapointed me. The fact that you pay 20% to Fiverr, ($1 from every $5 you make) but don’t get anything from it, is brutal. Some successful marketplaces offer you a first page listing or a newsletter place when you submit your gig for the first time, to get more exposure, more sales and gain confidence in them. Fiverr offers you just a first place listing in the new gigs section, that isn’t the top attraction or used by a lot of people. I have promoted my gig myself for most of not all of the sales I got so far.

Although this service isn’t for me, it doesn’t necessarily mean it won’t work for you. If you don’t mind getting paid $4 for a job, then you might be one of the workers that will enjoy using Fiverr to promote their services.

Here are some tips if you plan to start using Fiverr to sell gigs:

  1. Be sure whatever you plan to sell doesn’t take you more than 5-10 minutes to finish.
  2. Be sure that what you do is at least partially automated, if not in full.
  3. Be sure you stay away from the oversaturated niches like SEO.
  4. Make your gig unique but add key tags and well researched keywords to ensure you get sales
  5. Don’t forget to add anything you can do to improve the gig in extras
  6. Promote your gig, don’t wait for Fiverr to find interested buyers.
  7. Be a professional, bad reviews hurt your listing the most.

My experience wasn’t as great as I though with Fiverr, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t become your full time job. I am more of a hard work, high commission type of person, so the $4 profit part really bums me out. But if you want to make a salary just from $4 gigs, there are quite a few people aready doing it and it seems like it works.

My Opinion On The BlackHatWorld Marketplace

Most people believe that the BlackHatWorld.com community is one exclusively inclined towards black hat techniques and using immoral if not illegal techniques to trick Google to rank their websites. This is obviously not true. In fact, if you browse the main subforums on the BHW, you’ll notice that it not only has a white hat area, talking only about clean ways to make search engines love you, but also the dreaded blackhat area has a lot of posts talking about how content uniques and value is king, how building a lot of backlinks can harm your website and how a clean backlink profile and an authority website can go a long way. So basically BlackHatWorld is slowly becoming a smaller WarriorForum.

But don`t get me wrong, this isn`t a blog post praising BHW or even one inclined into advertising their community. Not at all. In fact, if you’re just starting into the  internet marketing world, Warrior forum can probably teach you a lot more about where to start and how to move forward. This is a post about how can the BlackHatWorld Marketplace help you get more sales.

Again, if you aren’t a constant member of the BHW community you might think that BHW marketplace is mostly about selling black hat SEO packages. This, again, isn`t true. I am one of the people that browse BHW completely ignoring threads talking about SEO. The marketplace can also be used to sell services like social media promotion and marketing, web design, images and logo design, web hosting services and more.

I used the marketplace, trying to promote social media makerting services. I did have a professional service to offer, but as you may know, having a great service is just half of the work, finding leads and converting them is the other half that you need to work on.

Before starting to receive traffic, as for most professional forums, there was an approval stage, that I needed to get through before selling. First off, you can`t sell anything on the forum if you’re not a JR. Vip member. This is a paid subscription that will cost you aroun $97 yearly, but that’s not all. You need to have at least 100 posts and no infractions before buying, so be very careful what you do on the forum if you plan to sell your services on their marketplace.

As soon as you’re a Jr. Vip member you can add your services for approval within the marketplace. You will have to build a detailed thread with all of your packages and their prices. This thread will be verified by one of the moderators and you will have to offer your best and priciest package to the moderator that handles your approval, for free, to be tested.

This is something that you should know about, especially if you are outsourcing parts of your services, because if you offer an enterprise package worth $500 and you pay $350 to outsource it, then you’ll have to offer that package for free, so be sure you have enough money to pay your team. Once the thread passes the approval stage, you have to pay $30, and as soon as you make your payment the thread will go live. So the cost to get th thread approved will be $97+$30. Additionally you will spend whatever you pay your team for the biggest package and the time it takes you to reach 100 posts. This is the technical part you need to take into account.

What about the traffic and sales you can get with BHW marketplace ?

Once you have an approved thread, things are way simpler. The best part is that you don`t have to pay each time you want to bump your thread, like on WF marketplace. Bumbing your thread is mostly free, but you do have to avoid spamming it. As for the traffic part, of course SEO threads get a lot more traffic than everything else, but even so, I got a pretty decent amount of sales, especially seeing that bumping is free and each time you get a reply, your thread gets on the 1st place again.

As a general tip, seeing what currently works on the forum, it`s best to promote your services using an infographic, but if you can`t afford a professional one, be sure you build a professional salesletter, because you can only edit it for a couple of days. After that, for any edits you have to ask an admin to do it.

As a conclusion, the BHW Marketplace is a great place to sell your products, but only if you have enough money to get through the approval process. As soon as you get approved, if you’re active enough on your thread you will receive free traffic to your offer for a long period of time.